It was great to hear from David Sunich on how his building has made a shift. From where they were; a dedicated staff with good intentions, to a dedicated staff with results AND good intentions. I appreciated the way he articulated developing growth goals. I now feel I am able to create and drive our goals to be successful. I enjoyed how he mentioned he will continue to develop a data driven culture. It reminds me that fine tuning an educational system will never be "done".
Wow. I am so impressed with my fellow classmates. Having the privilege to listen to Tawana, Sari, and Kristin really provided me with insight! They will all make incredible leaders!
I appreciated hearing from David about the nuts and bolts of school-wide goal setting as well as principal goal setting. It was valuable to see the process as he developed capacity in his school around goal setting. I would like to call on him if I find myself in a school that needs professional development in this area. The process of developing our philosophy of assessment was invaluable. It not only solidified our thinking in this area but it gave us valuable practice for when we interview and also for when we begin this process with our staff.
I enjoyed both Dave Sunich’s presentation and the presentations done by our colleagues tonight. It was great to hear from a current principal and the process he went through over the last few years as his school transitioned into making data based decisions. He acknowledged the fact that you need to give teachers time and resources if you want them to use data effectively, even if that means giving up some PD time. Hearing each other’s philosophy of assessment was also very beneficial. I always learn so much from listening to our cohort. It helped me to look at assessment through various lenses.
Great points! At first I was thinking, yes, Time! Teachers need time to "buy in" to big changes that are a lot of hard work. Time to wrap their brains around change, and then I read on and thought, yes! Time to collaborate too! Both forms of time are essential. We do need to know where are staff are at in readiness and we need to allow them time to collaborate. And I enjoyed watching "the movie" on the big screen. :)
Hearing Dave speak was very inspiring. It's good to see the process in action. He says they have work to do still, but they've made some serious growth already. I really see a lot of the Human Resources frame hard at work here. Dave's relationship with his staff plays an integral role in the decisions they're making as a team to make time for building the culture of data-based decision making. (I said "make" a lot didn't I?)
Dave’s insight to school wide goals was great to hear. It is nice to have guest speakers who are working within the system share their experiences which are tied so closely to what we are discussing in class. I appreciate the connections between what we are learning in class and the relevance it has to practice in our schools right now! Woohoo!
It was wonderful to hear classmate's assessment philosophies. We all have valuable things to share… it is great to learn from one another. BRAVO!
I enjoyed hearing classmates's assessment philosophies too! I gained some valuable insight and saw things that I need to include..."I will" statements.
One of the aspects of our program I am gaining insights from are the variety of guest speakers, who are doing the work. It has been beneficial to hear from their various perspectives -lenses- in the work they do to help kids succeed, each of which is quite different. The focus that David uses in his school goals helped solidify some of my unknowns about the possibilities of the CSIP. Something I really appreciated about his approach is that it is concise, clear, and not complicated. And best of all it Worked! I also enjoyed hearing the thinking Alyssa and Nate have been doing regarding all that we are learning. What a couple of insightful leaders. I was especially impressed with their ability to assimilate the massive amount of information into a focused cohesive applicable plan. It's all coming together.
I really enjoyed here Dave speech last night and hearing how a principal is piecing together the SIP with Data Teams and student growth and the teacher and principal evaluations. I appreciated his sharing his experiences and handouts with examples of how he does things. Writing student growth goals was new to me last year and I had a hard time wrapping my head around the process. I volunteered to me on comprehensive to get it over with. Writing the "nested" goals was a process for me. I would have loved to have Dave's hand out last year :)
Nesting all of the many complex and time consuming goals that the school and individual teachers are setting seems to be the way to go! Good luck this year! I have a sweet goal setting form that I was given this year. I will share it with you next week.
Dave’s presentation was great to hear. It was helpful to hear what he does to make goal setting work at his school. The ideas he presented seem to be workable and effective. It sounds like he has built some great relationships with his staff, they all have put in a lot of work and concentrated effort that has in turn benefited the kids at his school with improved learning! Very impressive to hear- I am grateful that he shared his experience with us! I enjoyed hearing the presentations on philosophy’s of assessment- Jenna, Lori and Elissa’s were all very well done, I learned from each of them! Thanks for sharing!
It was very clear that nesting your school wide goals provides the focus needed to make significant student growth. (Distinguished score) I really like Dave’s method of getting everyone involved with the data. Talking about it at every assembly and staff meeting. Recognizing the incremental growth in order keep people motivated and focused!
That's right, thanks for the reminder, I loved that he made the data a school wide, family and community wide effort... and made it a part of their assemblies too... he had some great ideas!
I agree with both of you guys I especially like the part about relationships that you said in your earlier post Lauralee. the information about Trust we heard from our Tuesday class all wrapped up with what we hear from our Thursday class combined together in a building that is seeing tremendous growth was a great "real-life" example.
I really enjoyed Dave's willingness to give his step by step successes and lessons learned. I had many take aways and one of the most valuable for me was the formula for SMART goals. At our building we have those staff members that are really good at writing them and we have those that are struggling. Although we have had two professional development days, I can feel the frustration and tension when the topic is brought up. Dave's formula is a great tool for those of us that are struggling. Also providing the nesting option for staff members is a great way to say we are all in this together and to continue to foster trust and relationships . In addition, our professors are amazing. The reading and work combination is a lot but it is so authentic! As Dave presented, I could literally reference points made in all the readings we have completed (or work to complete). I feel so reassured. This process is truly preparing me for success. I may not be there yet, but I feel confident I will by the end of two years. Thank you Dr. Malone and Dr. Adrian.
I agree.... I love when new learning is attached to previous learning. I feel like the lessons are so well though out and tied to the reading that we are really doing deeper each evening and not just a widespread superficial level of knowing.
Yes, nesting the goals seems straight forward and concise. I, too, feel like that was a gem to prepare me for success. This was some good old practical.
I really enjoyed seeing data and its effective use through a current principals perspective and lead. Thank you Dave for providing us a step by step process of how you have incorporated and embraced a data culture in your building. It was so wonderful to see and hear the success! I loved how you presented to the idea of the "nested" goals and how we were able to see the impact this had on your students at Pope. WOW, definitely distinguished work is happening within your walls. I also appreciated the hand outs you provided to us as a guide to take your information and instill some of that culture into our future buildings. Thank you so much for sharing your success---what an inspiration!
I really liked hearing David's presentation and being able to walk away with examples that we can use! At our school we went down a similar road nesting all three goals into one. Though it was explained in brief, it was great to hear it a second time with additional information. I also liked hearing that the work of improving is never done. We all know that, but hearing it again helps keep that thought present.
Group presentations were great. I enjoyed hearing others perspectives and their philosophy of assessment. I can't wait to take some time and look through them later today.
How do you get a healthier chicken? Do you weigh it more often, or do you improve the quality of the feed? I think you need both. As David described, his school used to have a data day.....lament or celebrate and then hope for next year until the cycle is repeated. Pope school evolved to realizing that data was collected frequently and it was shared with all stakeholders. Clearly, David also improved the quality of the feed first and foremost. The biggest take away from tonight and one the biggest take-aways from the semester is the idea of nested goals. I am not sure how I have never heard this concept before yet I am so glad I know about it now......This truly is a shared focus with collective responsibility. Add frequent monitoring and you have yourself a healthier chicken with no surprises in the end.
Lori made a powerful comment tonight (she does on many nights). She asked, "Isn't it the student's data (not the teachers). It is the students we serve.
David's presentation was informative and easy to understand. I appreciated his detailed explanation on how his principal goals were connected to the TPEP and CSIP process. Nested goals makes so much sense! His data process was explicit and could be easily adapted to other schools. I plan on sharing his presentation with my principal during our weekly meeting this week. I think Tim will be very interested in the nested goals. I also think we can tweak David's data meeting process to work in our building. We already have many of the details David mentioned in place; we just need a more systematic way of looking at the data every 4-6 weeks.
I forgot to add that the Philosophy of Assessment presentations were invaluable. Everyone had a different way of presenting their thoughts and creativeness. I appreciated my teams feedback...Thank you Tawana, Kelsey, and Sari. We have an amazingly, talented cohort!
It was great to hear from David Sunich on how his building has made a shift. From where they were; a dedicated staff with good intentions, to a dedicated staff with results AND good intentions. I appreciated the way he articulated developing growth goals. I now feel I am able to create and drive our goals to be successful. I enjoyed how he mentioned he will continue to develop a data driven culture. It reminds me that fine tuning an educational system will never be "done".
ReplyDeleteWow. I am so impressed with my fellow classmates. Having the privilege to listen to Tawana, Sari, and Kristin really provided me with insight! They will all make incredible leaders!
I agree "fine tuning" will never be done. It keeps us on our toes and our job exciting.
DeleteI appreciated hearing from David about the nuts and bolts of school-wide goal setting as well as principal goal setting. It was valuable to see the process as he developed capacity in his school around goal setting. I would like to call on him if I find myself in a school that needs professional development in this area.
ReplyDeleteThe process of developing our philosophy of assessment was invaluable. It not only solidified our thinking in this area but it gave us valuable practice for when we interview and also for when we begin this process with our staff.
I agree Alyssa! Practice makes perfect - hopefully!
DeleteI enjoyed both Dave Sunich’s presentation and the presentations done by our colleagues tonight. It was great to hear from a current principal and the process he went through over the last few years as his school transitioned into making data based decisions. He acknowledged the fact that you need to give teachers time and resources if you want them to use data effectively, even if that means giving up some PD time. Hearing each other’s philosophy of assessment was also very beneficial. I always learn so much from listening to our cohort. It helped me to look at assessment through various lenses.
ReplyDeleteGreat points! At first I was thinking, yes, Time! Teachers need time to "buy in" to big changes that are a lot of hard work. Time to wrap their brains around change, and then I read on and thought, yes! Time to collaborate too! Both forms of time are essential. We do need to know where are staff are at in readiness and we need to allow them time to collaborate. And I enjoyed watching "the movie" on the big screen. :)
DeleteHearing Dave speak was very inspiring. It's good to see the process in action. He says they have work to do still, but they've made some serious growth already. I really see a lot of the Human Resources frame hard at work here. Dave's relationship with his staff plays an integral role in the decisions they're making as a team to make time for building the culture of data-based decision making. (I said "make" a lot didn't I?)
ReplyDeleteDave’s insight to school wide goals was great to hear. It is nice to have guest speakers who are working within the system share their experiences which are tied so closely to what we are discussing in class. I appreciate the connections between what we are learning in class and the relevance it has to practice in our schools right now! Woohoo!
ReplyDeleteIt was wonderful to hear classmate's assessment philosophies. We all have valuable things to share… it is great to learn from one another. BRAVO!
I enjoyed hearing classmates's assessment philosophies too! I gained some valuable insight and saw things that I need to include..."I will" statements.
DeleteOne of the aspects of our program I am gaining insights from are the variety of guest speakers, who are doing the work. It has been beneficial to hear from their various perspectives -lenses- in the work they do to help kids succeed, each of which is quite different. The focus that David uses in his school goals helped solidify some of my unknowns about the possibilities of the CSIP. Something I really appreciated about his approach is that it is concise, clear, and not complicated. And best of all it Worked!
ReplyDeleteI also enjoyed hearing the thinking Alyssa and Nate have been doing regarding all that we are learning. What a couple of insightful leaders. I was especially impressed with their ability to assimilate the massive amount of information into a focused cohesive applicable plan. It's all coming together.
Well said Paul!
DeleteI really enjoyed here Dave speech last night and hearing how a principal is piecing together the SIP with Data Teams and student growth and the teacher and principal evaluations. I appreciated his sharing his experiences and handouts with examples of how he does things. Writing student growth goals was new to me last year and I had a hard time wrapping my head around the process. I volunteered to me on comprehensive to get it over with. Writing the "nested" goals was a process for me. I would have loved to have Dave's hand out last year :)
ReplyDeleteNesting all of the many complex and time consuming goals that the school and individual teachers are setting seems to be the way to go! Good luck this year! I have a sweet goal setting form that I was given this year. I will share it with you next week.
DeleteDave’s presentation was great to hear. It was helpful to hear what he does to make goal setting work at his school. The ideas he presented seem to be workable and effective. It sounds like he has built some great relationships with his staff, they all have put in a lot of work and concentrated effort that has in turn benefited the kids at his school with improved learning! Very impressive to hear- I am grateful that he shared his experience with us!
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed hearing the presentations on philosophy’s of assessment- Jenna, Lori and Elissa’s were all very well done, I learned from each of them! Thanks for sharing!
It was very clear that nesting your school wide goals provides the focus needed to make significant student growth. (Distinguished score) I really like Dave’s method of getting everyone involved with the data. Talking about it at every assembly and staff meeting. Recognizing the incremental growth in order keep people motivated and focused!
ReplyDeleteThat's right, thanks for the reminder, I loved that he made the data a school wide, family and community wide effort... and made it a part of their assemblies too... he had some great ideas!
DeleteI agree with both of you guys I especially like the part about relationships that you said in your earlier post Lauralee. the information about Trust we heard from our Tuesday class all wrapped up with what we hear from our Thursday class combined together in a building that is seeing tremendous growth was a great "real-life" example.
DeleteI really enjoyed Dave's willingness to give his step by step successes and lessons learned. I had many take aways and one of the most valuable for me was the formula for SMART goals. At our building we have those staff members that are really good at writing them and we have those that are struggling. Although we have had two professional development days, I can feel the frustration and tension when the topic is brought up. Dave's formula is a great tool for those of us that are struggling. Also providing the nesting option for staff members is a great way to say we are all in this together and to continue to foster trust and relationships . In addition, our professors are amazing. The reading and work combination is a lot but it is so authentic! As Dave presented, I could literally reference points made in all the readings we have completed (or work to complete). I feel so reassured. This process is truly preparing me for success. I may not be there yet, but I feel confident I will by the end of two years. Thank you Dr. Malone and Dr. Adrian.
ReplyDeleteI agree.... I love when new learning is attached to previous learning. I feel like the lessons are so well though out and tied to the reading that we are really doing deeper each evening and not just a widespread superficial level of knowing.
DeleteYes, nesting the goals seems straight forward and concise. I, too, feel like that was a gem to prepare me for success. This was some good old practical.
DeleteI love the practical lessons.
DeleteI really enjoyed seeing data and its effective use through a current principals perspective and lead. Thank you Dave for providing us a step by step process of how you have incorporated and embraced a data culture in your building. It was so wonderful to see and hear the success! I loved how you presented to the idea of the "nested" goals and how we were able to see the impact this had on your students at Pope. WOW, definitely distinguished work is happening within your walls. I also appreciated the hand outs you provided to us as a guide to take your information and instill some of that culture into our future buildings. Thank you so much for sharing your success---what an inspiration!
ReplyDeleteI really liked hearing David's presentation and being able to walk away with examples that we can use! At our school we went down a similar road nesting all three goals into one. Though it was explained in brief, it was great to hear it a second time with additional information. I also liked hearing that the work of improving is never done. We all know that, but hearing it again helps keep that thought present.
ReplyDeleteGroup presentations were great. I enjoyed hearing others perspectives and their philosophy of assessment. I can't wait to take some time and look through them later today.
Reading Chapters 7 and 8 for this week correct?
ReplyDeleteYes!
Deletethanks Kristin! And thanks Glenn for sending out the info in text form.
DeleteHow do you get a healthier chicken? Do you weigh it more often, or do you improve the quality of the feed? I think you need both.
ReplyDeleteAs David described, his school used to have a data day.....lament or celebrate and then hope for next year until the cycle is repeated. Pope school evolved to realizing that data was collected frequently and it was shared with all stakeholders.
Clearly, David also improved the quality of the feed first and foremost. The biggest take away from tonight and one the biggest take-aways from the semester is the idea of nested goals. I am not sure how I have never heard this concept before yet I am so glad I know about it now......This truly is a shared focus with collective responsibility. Add frequent monitoring and you have yourself a healthier chicken with no surprises in the end.
Lori made a powerful comment tonight (she does on many nights). She asked, "Isn't it the student's data (not the teachers). It is the students we serve.
Brittane, I completely agree with your mentioning of Lori's comment.
DeleteDavid's presentation was informative and easy to understand. I appreciated his detailed explanation on how his principal goals were connected to the TPEP and CSIP process. Nested goals makes so much sense! His data process was explicit and could be easily adapted to other schools. I plan on sharing his presentation with my principal during our weekly meeting this week. I think Tim will be very interested in the nested goals. I also think we can tweak David's data meeting process to work in our building. We already have many of the details David mentioned in place; we just need a more systematic way of looking at the data every 4-6 weeks.
ReplyDeleteI forgot to add that the Philosophy of Assessment presentations were invaluable. Everyone had a different way of presenting their thoughts and creativeness. I appreciated my teams feedback...Thank you Tawana, Kelsey, and Sari. We have an amazingly, talented cohort!
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